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Mmmm. What conditions cause mummification?If they were buried in a tent by snow, this maybe caused the mummification? They woulda got freezer burn.
In a word...a name: Ötzi. Buried in an Austrian glacier 5,000 years ago.Mmmm. What conditions cause mummification?
Getting packed with snow is one method. That’s the reason they keep finding bodies as glaciers melt; sometimes it’s,hikers who’ve fallen in crevasses.Mmmm. What conditions cause mummification?
More and more backstory....Yep, Ötzi. Cute guy.
Video on the Gunnison id’s. It hits home when you see the stepsister talking.
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Bodies found in remote campsite in Gunnison identified
CBS News Colorado's reporter Gabriela Vidal provides the full details about the bodies that were found in a remote campsite in Gunnison being identified.www.cbsnews.com
I’m reading this, and thought maybe their fire went out in their firepit, and they ended up with no fire source at all. This would accelerate hypothermia.Mis-speculation #4. 2 dies from carbon monoxide poisoning from a live fire source in the tent.
I’m on the fence about this, but veer towards this did ‘t happen.
I haven’t seen a firm position from LE on whether they found a fire source in the tent.
It’s possible this happened , but I can’t visualize it. A regular fire wouldn’t work: it would have melted the tent. It also could easily get out of control and set the tent in flames. Tents are highly flammable: I imagine the cheaper ones are saturated with petroleum products to make them waterproof, and we’re likely looking at cheap here.
Then there's the chance they brought a stove. IMO this is very unlikely. Someone with fantasies of living off-grid doesn’t usually imagine they would need a stove; they’d rather “live off the land”. This means firewood. I also can’t see the trio lugging a lot of gas out there. Gas is heavy or comes in heavy containers. They didn’t bring enough food…doesn’t make sense they brought gas.
That’s my verdict: no flame in tent.
Wow, that makes sense. It seems bizarre they never managed to complete a lean-to. With 3 people, it just wouldn’t take that long. Maybe a few days to drag downed logs or branches? They could have been building it, and then their fire went out, so what would be the point of continuing? They’d soon get very cold (even in summer), and if they got wet, too, they’d be done for. If their fire went out, and they weren’t prepared with gear or food, they’d be dead from hypothermia within a matter of hours.I’m reading this, and thought maybe their fire went out in their firepit, and they ended up with no fire source at all. This would accelerate hypothermia.
LE says they had started to build a lean-to over the fire, but didn’t complete it. I wonder if the fire got doused by snow or rain, they had no additional source (maybe they had matches that got wet?), and they got too cold to continue building the lean-to.
This could all have happened before a huge snowfall got them stuck there. If their fire went out, and they were out of matches, they couldn't have made it to town before freezing to death.Wow, that makes sense. It seems bizarre they never managed to complete a lean-to. With 3 people, it just wouldn’t take that long. Maybe a few days to drag downed logs or branches? They could have been building it, and then their fire went out, so what would be the point of continuing? They’d soon get very cold (even in summer), and if they got wet, too, they’d be done for. If their fire went out, and they weren’t prepared with gear or food, they’d be dead from hypothermia within a matter of hours.
I'm not as definite as they "couldn't have made it to town". If their fire went out, they were out of matches, and too cold to think straight, they couldn't have made it to town. If they got going and didn't stop, maybe they'd have a chance at reaching town if rain or snow stopped.This could all have happened before a huge snowfall got them stuck there. If their fire went out, and they were out of matches, they couldn't have made it to town before freezing to death.
Family says they got there in August. I'm betting they died in October or November. If they survived into full snow season, they would have been able to get the attention a backcountry skier, if the situation got dire. So, I think not backcountry ski season yet.
Hehe, this is the same as Mis-speculation #2?Mis-speculation #4. 2 dies from carbon monoxide poisoning from a live fire source in the tent.
I’m on the fence about this, but veer towards this did ‘t happen.
I haven’t seen a firm position from LE on whether they found a fire source in the tent.
It’s possible this happened , but I can’t visualize it. A regular fire wouldn’t work: it would have melted the tent. It also could easily get out of control and set the tent in flames. Tents are highly flammable: I imagine the cheaper ones are saturated with petroleum products to make them waterproof, and we’re likely looking at cheap here.
Then there's the chance they brought a stove. IMO this is very unlikely. Someone with fantasies of living off-grid doesn’t usually imagine they would need a stove; they’d rather “live off the land”. This means firewood. I also can’t see the trio lugging a lot of gas out there. Gas is heavy or comes in heavy containers. They didn’t bring enough food…doesn’t make sense they brought gas.
That’s my verdict: no flame in tent.